Cliff started in commercial sound production at the Tape Gallery in 1985. After a couple of years he moved to the AV Dept. (now Blue Post) where as well as recording, sound design and mixing he started writing music for commercials and corporate clients.

In 1993 he moved to Silk Sound and soon after became part of the team that launched Space Studios. By 2001 he had joined Saunders & Gordon where his music writing continued whilst still being a prolific commercials and long-form engineer.

Andrew's first job was in music at Advision Studios. He moved into advertising at the Tape Gallery in 1986 and then, after a brief stint setting up Tape to Tape Duplication, settled in at Saunders & Gordon in 1989 where he became one of the busiest, award-winning commercials engineers until 2004. This was followed by 18 months long-form and radio work at the The Sound Co.

For over 20 years, Cliff and Andrew have collaborated on music, writing, performing and producing much on-air and corporate material.